Comments on: John Williams Themes, Part 2 of 6: Star Wars, Main Title https://filmmusicnotes.com/john-williams-themes-part-2-star-wars-main-title/ Understanding the Art of Film Music Thu, 22 Jun 2023 15:21:28 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9 By: Mal https://filmmusicnotes.com/john-williams-themes-part-2-star-wars-main-title/#comment-80145 Sat, 08 Oct 2022 08:52:46 +0000 https://filmmusicnotes.com/2013/03/09/john-williams-themes-part-2-star-wars-main-title/#comment-80145 In reply to Film Score Junkie.

I LOVE your analyses on the Superman score!! Was humming the tune while reading. Your Star Wars score analysis too.

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By: Mark Richards https://filmmusicnotes.com/john-williams-themes-part-2-star-wars-main-title/#comment-77760 Mon, 07 Jun 2021 13:30:34 +0000 https://filmmusicnotes.com/2013/03/09/john-williams-themes-part-2-star-wars-main-title/#comment-77760 In reply to jenny.

Hi Jenny. The strangest thing about this middle section of the main theme is that Williams didn’t actually write it for the main theme! Check out this interview he did with the Pacific Symphony Orchestra, in which the maestro himself states that he wrote the middle section for the Throne Room melody, then used that for the middle section of the main title: https://vocaroo.com/856a8uo8HcN. There are also some musical factors supporting this as well, most of all the use of the same, or very similar, motives in the B section as in the Throne Room’s A section. Long story short, any associations we have of this music suggesting the distant galaxies and build up of a threat you mention are more because of the visuals its placed with in the main theme rather than inherently musical properties. Even so, it does work enormously well and it’s incredible to think he didn’t actually write it for the film’s opening!

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By: jenny https://filmmusicnotes.com/john-williams-themes-part-2-star-wars-main-title/#comment-77759 Mon, 07 Jun 2021 10:53:39 +0000 https://filmmusicnotes.com/2013/03/09/john-williams-themes-part-2-star-wars-main-title/#comment-77759 how does John Williams suggest mysterious distant galaxies in the middle section and then the built up threat

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By: Mark Richards https://filmmusicnotes.com/john-williams-themes-part-2-star-wars-main-title/#comment-76730 Sat, 07 Mar 2020 23:27:14 +0000 https://filmmusicnotes.com/2013/03/09/john-williams-themes-part-2-star-wars-main-title/#comment-76730 In reply to Nils.

Hi Nils. That’s a great observation. I would say that, for themes in major keys, having the key turn minor is common just before an important arrival point, like the return of the main melody. Could you list some of the TV themes you have in mind? And actually, the Star Wars main title does this not only where you mention (I assume you mean in the B section just before the main theme comes back), but also just before the main theme enters for the first time. The scale flourish that leads into the theme is actually minor but when the theme comes in, it’s of course major.

This kind of minor-key preparation for a major-key theme happens all the time in classical music as well. It’s a bread and butter technique, whether it’s for moving from a slow introduction into the movement proper (very common) or preparing for an important theme in the movement itself, like before the so-called second theme in sonata form, or even more commonly, in the development section just before the return of the main theme at the start of the recapitulation.

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By: Nils https://filmmusicnotes.com/john-williams-themes-part-2-star-wars-main-title/#comment-76726 Sat, 07 Mar 2020 14:28:25 +0000 https://filmmusicnotes.com/2013/03/09/john-williams-themes-part-2-star-wars-main-title/#comment-76726 Hi, thanks for the great analysis. I would like to know your thoughts on the melody changing to a minor scale at the end, descending from the root. I thought it was quite surprising when I first realized it. Then I found that some TV series openings do the same thing. Is there a name for this technique?

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By: Mark Richards https://filmmusicnotes.com/john-williams-themes-part-2-star-wars-main-title/#comment-47404 Tue, 10 May 2016 18:39:29 +0000 https://filmmusicnotes.com/2013/03/09/john-williams-themes-part-2-star-wars-main-title/#comment-47404 In reply to Manoel Moreira.

Thank you, Manoel. Yes, I am aware of the influence of Holst’s Mars on the Star Wars score, but I don’t believe it has anything to do with the film’s main theme. It’s most evident at the end of the main title cue (not the theme itself) when the ships appear onscreen, and also at the end of the film in the lead-up to the destruction of the Death Star. But I respectfully disagree that Williams would be “nothing” without the Holst influence. Yes, there are several moments in the score that are heavily tied to other pieces but that’s because Lucas wanted it that way. And besides, these references we hear to other pieces are but short moments in a huge score. It would be impossible to claim that the score is “just a lift” from classical models as the vast majority of the score is composed without such references.

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By: Manoel Moreira https://filmmusicnotes.com/john-williams-themes-part-2-star-wars-main-title/#comment-47401 Tue, 10 May 2016 11:14:32 +0000 https://filmmusicnotes.com/2013/03/09/john-williams-themes-part-2-star-wars-main-title/#comment-47401 Good analysis. Of course it has a forgotten point that is in my view essential. Holst, Gustav Holst, without he my dear, Mr Williams would be nothing. Just listen to the suite The Planets, especially Mars the planet of war.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHVsszW7Nds

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By: Manoel Moreira https://filmmusicnotes.com/john-williams-themes-part-2-star-wars-main-title/#comment-47400 Tue, 10 May 2016 11:08:54 +0000 https://filmmusicnotes.com/2013/03/09/john-williams-themes-part-2-star-wars-main-title/#comment-47400 Boa análise. É claro que tem um ponto esquecido que é ao meu ver fundamental. Holst, Gustav Holst, sem ele meu caro, Mr Willhams não seria nada. É só ouvir a suite Os Planetas, especialmente Marte o planeta da guerra.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHVsszW7Nds

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By: Mark Richards https://filmmusicnotes.com/john-williams-themes-part-2-star-wars-main-title/#comment-46982 Mon, 11 Apr 2016 13:42:31 +0000 https://filmmusicnotes.com/2013/03/09/john-williams-themes-part-2-star-wars-main-title/#comment-46982 In reply to Mr.Alarm.

Yes, check out J. W. Rinzler’s The Making of Star Wars, which discusses some of the classical pieces and film cues that were used in the film’s temp track and ultimately had a large part in carrying over to many of the original film’s cues.

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By: Mr.Alarm https://filmmusicnotes.com/john-williams-themes-part-2-star-wars-main-title/#comment-46879 Mon, 04 Apr 2016 21:15:42 +0000 https://filmmusicnotes.com/2013/03/09/john-williams-themes-part-2-star-wars-main-title/#comment-46879 Thanks for your analysis. As one who doesn’t know how to read music, some of it is over my head. I haven’t read all of your pages, but I’m looking for more info on the SW music ‘cues’ – classical and film selections that Lucas says he wrote sections of the screenplay to. He mentioned Korngold in interviews, so the Kings Row Fanfare was either listened to or Lucas guided Williams to it. But so many other themes are obvious – Darth Vader theme to Funeral March by Chopin (Piano Sonata No. 2, Op. 35, in B-flat Minor) and Prokofiev’s Love for Three Oranges March for Ewoks, etc; Lucas has said he wrote SW listening to music fitting the scene, and seems to have passed these on to JW, who used some if not all of them, as springboards. Do you know where more has been written on this connection to classical/film music motifs that JW started from?

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