Comments on: Oscar Nominees 2014 (Part 6 of 6): Prediction, Best Original Score https://filmmusicnotes.com/oscar-nominees-2014-part-6-of-6-prediction-best-original-score/ Understanding the Art of Film Music Thu, 22 Jun 2023 15:18:58 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9 By: Mark Richards https://filmmusicnotes.com/oscar-nominees-2014-part-6-of-6-prediction-best-original-score/#comment-45748 Mon, 18 Jan 2016 04:33:19 +0000 https://filmmusicnotes.com/2014/03/02/oscar-nominees-2014-part-6-of-6-prediction-best-original-score/#comment-45748 In reply to Bob Rogers.

That’s the song titled “Hooray for Hollywood”, composed by Richard A. Whiting, who also wrote “Ain’t We Got Fun?” and “On the Good Ship Lollipop”. The song was written for the 1937 film Hollywood Hotel, and can be heard in the clip below (sung with lyrics from 1:37):

http://www.tcm.com/mediaroom/video/277117/Hollywood-Hotel-Movie-Clip-Hooray-For-Hollywood-.html

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By: Bob Rogers https://filmmusicnotes.com/oscar-nominees-2014-part-6-of-6-prediction-best-original-score/#comment-45743 Sun, 17 Jan 2016 22:51:03 +0000 https://filmmusicnotes.com/2014/03/02/oscar-nominees-2014-part-6-of-6-prediction-best-original-score/#comment-45743 Nice thread. I just found this video on YouTube which has the Closing Credits music for the Academy Awards. Do you guys know who composed this?
https://youtu.be/hA5YwVzFzR8

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By: Film Score Junkie https://filmmusicnotes.com/oscar-nominees-2014-part-6-of-6-prediction-best-original-score/#comment-11797 Wed, 02 Apr 2014 19:41:29 +0000 https://filmmusicnotes.com/2014/03/02/oscar-nominees-2014-part-6-of-6-prediction-best-original-score/#comment-11797 In reply to NM.

Hi NM. Thanks for such a detailed and thoughtful response! I should say that one thing I usually avoid doing in my posts is to give subjective commentary on whether I liked or disliked a score. I try to focus on more objective and positive things that most could probably agree on.

I agree that Gravity is rather overrated for the reasons you give. My aim in these posts is to try and get at what does work about controversial scores like this so that I and my audience can hopefully understand better why current Hollywood trends in film music are the way they are. After all, there’s gotta be something about them that is successful filmically, otherwise they wouldn’t continue to be composed. And while it is probably bound up with things like producing scores more immediately so directors and producers can hear what they are getting much earlier than ever before and use it for previews and promos, and accessing a style that likely ties into the synth-sweetened sound of rock concerts and video games, I have to think there is at least some merit behind these kinds of scores nevertheless. So I try very much to avoid the negative slant on such posts and instead focus on what positive aspects a score like Gravity has to offer.

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By: NM https://filmmusicnotes.com/oscar-nominees-2014-part-6-of-6-prediction-best-original-score/#comment-11795 Wed, 02 Apr 2014 16:49:09 +0000 https://filmmusicnotes.com/2014/03/02/oscar-nominees-2014-part-6-of-6-prediction-best-original-score/#comment-11795 win are old news, I would beg to differ with a few of your suggestions. I read your analytical piece and while I would agree with elements, I believe that this score has been immeasurably overrated. It's one of those scores everyone seems to say is brilliant but without being able to explain how. Now there's nothing terrible about it at all, it's a good score, it broadly works with the film, but it doesn't do much beyond that for me, and there are dozens of scores about which I can say the same that never had a sniff of Oscar™ recognition. The score is yet another that seemingly follows the modern paradigm of assuming that being low key has to mean sacrificing musicality. Wandering electronic tones and drum loops are things we have heard plenty before. The 'clipped crescendo' as you described it, was indeed memorable, but only because it was one of the worst elements of the film for me. There is nothing innovative about using cheap-sounding cut-offs to highlight a beat. It has been the bane of trailer music and bland action scores for the last 20-odd years, and seemed a lazy way of addressing points of tension. Every time I heard it I was taken out of the film. Absolutely, it's great that the academy is acknowledging good scoring beyond the realms of the traditional, but in this instance, there were other superior, more interesting, more dynamic, more narratively satisfying low key scores. Philomena absolutely grips you, and one of my favorite things about the film walking out of it, was that the score didn't succumb to the temptation to provide the kind of flaccid, dull, meandering piano-style thing these kinds of 'gritty' drama films often get. If anything Gravity could've done with a bigger emotional pull in its music because the main characters were pretty hackneyed. While Price's score does address the emptiness in space and the sense of danger, I wouldn't agree it effectively addresses the loneliness, the helplessness nor the character arc of the main character.]]> Hiya, it’s great to see a site dedicated to film music analysis, there are all too few and it’s commendable.

While ‘Gravity’ and its Oscar™ win are old news, I would beg to differ with a few of your suggestions. I read your analytical piece and while I would agree with elements, I believe that this score has been immeasurably overrated. It’s one of those scores everyone seems to say is brilliant but without being able to explain how.

Now there’s nothing terrible about it at all, it’s a good score, it broadly works with the film, but it doesn’t do much beyond that for me, and there are dozens of scores about which I can say the same that never had a sniff of Oscar™ recognition. The score is yet another that seemingly follows the modern paradigm of assuming that being low key has to mean sacrificing musicality. Wandering electronic tones and drum loops are things we have heard plenty before.

The ‘clipped crescendo’ as you described it, was indeed memorable, but only because it was one of the worst elements of the film for me. There is nothing innovative about using cheap-sounding cut-offs to highlight a beat. It has been the bane of trailer music and bland action scores for the last 20-odd years, and seemed a lazy way of addressing points of tension. Every time I heard it I was taken out of the film.

Absolutely, it’s great that the academy is acknowledging good scoring beyond the realms of the traditional, but in this instance, there were other superior, more interesting, more dynamic, more narratively satisfying low key scores. Philomena absolutely grips you, and one of my favorite things about the film walking out of it, was that the score didn’t succumb to the temptation to provide the kind of flaccid, dull, meandering piano-style thing these kinds of ‘gritty’ drama films often get.

If anything Gravity could’ve done with a bigger emotional pull in its music because the main characters were pretty hackneyed. While Price’s score does address the emptiness in space and the sense of danger, I wouldn’t agree it effectively addresses the loneliness, the helplessness nor the character arc of the main character.

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By: Film Score Junkie https://filmmusicnotes.com/oscar-nominees-2014-part-6-of-6-prediction-best-original-score/#comment-10504 Sun, 02 Mar 2014 17:41:18 +0000 https://filmmusicnotes.com/2014/03/02/oscar-nominees-2014-part-6-of-6-prediction-best-original-score/#comment-10504 In reply to David.

Of course you’re right, David. Thanks so much for this – I’ve changed the post accordingly.

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By: Sue https://filmmusicnotes.com/oscar-nominees-2014-part-6-of-6-prediction-best-original-score/#comment-10501 Sun, 02 Mar 2014 17:04:50 +0000 https://filmmusicnotes.com/2014/03/02/oscar-nominees-2014-part-6-of-6-prediction-best-original-score/#comment-10501 YOU’VE NAILED IT, MARK. The film did get the Oscar for music. Congratulations for being right on the money!!!

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By: David https://filmmusicnotes.com/oscar-nominees-2014-part-6-of-6-prediction-best-original-score/#comment-10499 Sun, 02 Mar 2014 16:36:25 +0000 https://filmmusicnotes.com/2014/03/02/oscar-nominees-2014-part-6-of-6-prediction-best-original-score/#comment-10499 Great article, Ludwig! And I agree.

However, on a highly trivial note, just wanted to point out that this:

“In six of the last ten years, the film that won the Oscar for Best Original Score was also nominated for Best Picture. This suggests that the scores for Gravity, Her, and Philomena have an advantage this year, their films having an accompanying nomination for Best Picture. But this pattern runs somewhat deeper, as those six winning scores from the last ten years were from films also nominated for Best Director. Of this year’s nominees, only Gravity fits that bill.”

…is actually inaccurate. The last 10 score winners were ALL nominated for Best Picture, and three of them (Finding Neverland, Atonement, and Up) still won without Best Director nominations. I think the point still stands, though!

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